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Re: Addressing timezone challenges for TOC meetings

Kay Williams <kayw@...>
 

One potential conflict is that the sig-security meeting is scheduled for 8AM Pacific biweekly, one hour ahead of the TOC meeting.  We can consider rescheduling the sig-security meetings for another day of the week. I recommend selecting times for the TOC meeting first, and sig-security will adjust.

 

From: cdf-toc@... <cdf-toc@...> On Behalf Of Tara Hernandez via Lists.Cd.Foundation
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Subject: Re: [cdf-toc] Addressing timezone challenges for TOC meetings

 

My default was leaving one meeting where it was but I would tentatively be okay with shifting an hour.  

 

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:05 AM Avi Kessner <akessner@...> wrote:

Is 8am PST too early?

This looks like it would be better for every other location.

8am PST == 6pm Tel Aviv == 8:30pm India == 12am Tokyo

 

 

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 19:31 Tara Hernandez via Lists.Cd.Foundation <tarahernandez=google.com@...> wrote:

So, I was staring at time zones, and came up with this possibility, assuming we alternate every meeting, so most folks get  _something_ plausible at least once a month:

 

9am PST == 7pm Tel Aviv == 9:30pm India == 1am Tokyo

 

and:

 

6pm PST == 4am Tel Aviv == 6:30am India == 10am Tokyo

 

India is admittedly getting somewhat sacrificed at the expense of keeping things more or less reasonable for the Left Coasters, but not sure how evil that is (any later is going to be very hard for most of our primary members, methinks)

 

What do y'all think?

 

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Re: Addressing timezone challenges for TOC meetings

Tara Hernandez
 

My default was leaving one meeting where it was but I would tentatively be okay with shifting an hour.  


On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:05 AM Avi Kessner <akessner@...> wrote:
Is 8am PST too early?
This looks like it would be better for every other location.
8am PST == 6pm Tel Aviv == 8:30pm India == 12am Tokyo


On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 19:31 Tara Hernandez via Lists.Cd.Foundation <tarahernandez=google.com@...> wrote:
So, I was staring at time zones, and came up with this possibility, assuming we alternate every meeting, so most folks get  _something_ plausible at least once a month:

9am PST == 7pm Tel Aviv == 9:30pm India == 1am Tokyo

and:

6pm PST == 4am Tel Aviv == 6:30am India == 10am Tokyo

India is admittedly getting somewhat sacrificed at the expense of keeping things more or less reasonable for the Left Coasters, but not sure how evil that is (any later is going to be very hard for most of our primary members, methinks)

What do y'all think?

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Tara Hernandez
Engineering Manager Google Cloud





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Re: [VOTE] Roadmap WG

Avi Kessner
 

+1 non-binding. I've been eager to see the "roadmap"


On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 19:47 Kohsuke Kawaguchi <kk@...> wrote:
I've finally updated the Roadmap WG proposal based on the feedback.

So I'm also calling a vote on this to get this blessed.

Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support!

I'll start with my own +1.

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Re: [VOTE] Screwdriver.cd incubation

Oleg Nenashev
 

+1 as long as CNCF incubation and graduation terms apply to the newly onboarded projects.

FTR even for founding projects the onboarding is still in progress. There were some concerns about adding new projects and hence spreading resources thin, but I think it is net positive to have more projects to facilitate the CDF internal processes and consolidation.

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Best regards,
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Jenkins project

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 21:03 Avi Kessner <akessner@...> wrote:
Non-binding +1 the project excites me.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 19:46 Marky Jackson <marky.r.jackson@...> wrote:
Having worked at Yahoo! during the building of this tool I am a huge +1

On Nov 5, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <kk@...> wrote:

I'm calling the new round of voting for the incubation of Screwdriver.

The original presentation from the project is hereThe proposal has been updated based on the feedback from the previous round of votes. In particular, the growth plan.

Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support!

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Kohsuke Kawaguchi


Re: Addressing timezone challenges for TOC meetings

Avi Kessner
 

Is 8am PST too early?
This looks like it would be better for every other location.
8am PST == 6pm Tel Aviv == 8:30pm India == 12am Tokyo


On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 19:31 Tara Hernandez via Lists.Cd.Foundation <tarahernandez=google.com@...> wrote:
So, I was staring at time zones, and came up with this possibility, assuming we alternate every meeting, so most folks get  _something_ plausible at least once a month:

9am PST == 7pm Tel Aviv == 9:30pm India == 1am Tokyo

and:

6pm PST == 4am Tel Aviv == 6:30am India == 10am Tokyo

India is admittedly getting somewhat sacrificed at the expense of keeping things more or less reasonable for the Left Coasters, but not sure how evil that is (any later is going to be very hard for most of our primary members, methinks)

What do y'all think?

--
Tara Hernandez
Engineering Manager Google Cloud




Re: [VOTE] Screwdriver.cd incubation

Avi Kessner
 

Non-binding +1 the project excites me.


On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 19:46 Marky Jackson <marky.r.jackson@...> wrote:
Having worked at Yahoo! during the building of this tool I am a huge +1

On Nov 5, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <kk@...> wrote:

I'm calling the new round of voting for the incubation of Screwdriver.

The original presentation from the project is hereThe proposal has been updated based on the feedback from the previous round of votes. In particular, the growth plan.

Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support!

--
Kohsuke Kawaguchi


[VOTE] Roadmap WG

Kohsuke Kawaguchi
 

I've finally updated the Roadmap WG proposal based on the feedback.

So I'm also calling a vote on this to get this blessed.

Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support!

I'll start with my own +1.

--
Kohsuke Kawaguchi


Re: [VOTE] Screwdriver.cd incubation

Marky Jackson <marky.r.jackson@...>
 

Having worked at Yahoo! during the building of this tool I am a huge +1

On Nov 5, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <kk@...> wrote:

I'm calling the new round of voting for the incubation of Screwdriver.

The original presentation from the project is hereThe proposal has been updated based on the feedback from the previous round of votes. In particular, the growth plan.

Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support!

--
Kohsuke Kawaguchi


[VOTE] Screwdriver.cd incubation

Kohsuke Kawaguchi
 

I'm calling the new round of voting for the incubation of Screwdriver.

The original presentation from the project is hereThe proposal has been updated based on the feedback from the previous round of votes. In particular, the growth plan.

Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support!

--
Kohsuke Kawaguchi


Addressing timezone challenges for TOC meetings

Tara Hernandez
 

So, I was staring at time zones, and came up with this possibility, assuming we alternate every meeting, so most folks get  _something_ plausible at least once a month:

9am PST == 7pm Tel Aviv == 9:30pm India == 1am Tokyo

and:

6pm PST == 4am Tel Aviv == 6:30am India == 10am Tokyo

India is admittedly getting somewhat sacrificed at the expense of keeping things more or less reasonable for the Left Coasters, but not sure how evil that is (any later is going to be very hard for most of our primary members, methinks)

What do y'all think?

--
Tara Hernandez
Engineering Manager Google Cloud




TOC Meeting 10.22.19 - Recording Posted

Dan Lopez <dlopez@...>
 

Hello CDF TOC

Today's meeting is now posted to the CDF youtube channel: https://youtu.be/Z9ps5sZa0a8

Best,

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Security SIG Update

Kay Williams <kayw@...>
 

Hi All,

 

I won’t be able to make the TOC meeting today, but I wanted to provide an update from the Security SIG.

 

The main focus right now is an effort to create an industry standard for a ‘Software Bill of Materials’. You can learn more at the project web page:

 

https://www.it-cisq.org/software-bill-of-materials/

 

We are tracking to submit a draft specification on November 11.

 

If you, or someone you know, would like to get involved in this effort, please send me an email.

 

Kay

 

 

 

 


Re: FYI: New LF Telemetry Policy

Kohsuke Kawaguchi
 

I think it's reasonable to assume that what we already do is grandfathered in, but it'd be good to have Jenkins go through this review process to meet the new bar.


On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 9:23 PM Oleg Nenashev <o.v.nenashev@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Does this policy apply to telemetry engines which were introduced *before* the new policy was announced? It is not clear from the text, but it is important if it becomes a policy for CDF projects.

Thanks in advance,
Oleg Nenashev
Jenkins project


On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 01:57 Dan Lopez <dlopez@...> wrote:
Thanks, Dan!

It is also on the agenda for tomorrow TOC call.

Best,
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The Linux Foundation
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 4:38 PM Dan Lorenc via Lists.Cd.Foundation <dlorenc=google.com@...> wrote:
This was recently published: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/telemetry-data-policy/

It covers the policies and review process for the collection of data. We might want to consider adding this to our project guidelines.

Dan Lorenc



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Re: FYI: New LF Telemetry Policy

Oleg Nenashev
 

Hi all,

Does this policy apply to telemetry engines which were introduced *before* the new policy was announced? It is not clear from the text, but it is important if it becomes a policy for CDF projects.

Thanks in advance,
Oleg Nenashev
Jenkins project


On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 01:57 Dan Lopez <dlopez@...> wrote:
Thanks, Dan!

It is also on the agenda for tomorrow TOC call.

Best,
--
Dan Lopez
The Linux Foundation
+1 415.735.5881




On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 4:38 PM Dan Lorenc via Lists.Cd.Foundation <dlorenc=google.com@...> wrote:
This was recently published: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/telemetry-data-policy/

It covers the policies and review process for the collection of data. We might want to consider adding this to our project guidelines.

Dan Lorenc


Re: FYI: New LF Telemetry Policy

Dan Lopez <dlopez@...>
 

Thanks, Dan!

It is also on the agenda for tomorrow TOC call.

Best,
--
Dan Lopez
The Linux Foundation
+1 415.735.5881




On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 4:38 PM Dan Lorenc via Lists.Cd.Foundation <dlorenc=google.com@...> wrote:
This was recently published: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/telemetry-data-policy/

It covers the policies and review process for the collection of data. We might want to consider adding this to our project guidelines.

Dan Lorenc


FYI: New LF Telemetry Policy

Dan Lorenc <dlorenc@...>
 

This was recently published: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/telemetry-data-policy/

It covers the policies and review process for the collection of data. We might want to consider adding this to our project guidelines.

Dan Lorenc


Re: [cdf-outreach] Is the Landscape ready for prime time?

Dan Lopez <dlopez@...>
 

This has been fixed.


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On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:25 PM Tara Hernandez via Lists.Cd.Foundation <tarahernandez=google.com@...> wrote:
One more niggly PR filed to fix some language in the README for that repo: https://github.com/cdfoundation/cdf-landscape/pull/37

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:15 PM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
Issue Tracking SGTM

Also here is the link for folks who don't have it readily available:

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:42 PM TracyRagan <tracy@...> wrote:
Hello distinguished TOC members.

Please let me know if you have any issues with the landscape.  We would love to get it out, start blogging about it, tweeting etc.   If the categories work we will publish it so organizations can start adding their logos. 

One last thought - Do you think we should add an Issue Tracking category? 

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Re: [cdf-outreach] Is the Landscape ready for prime time?

Tara Hernandez
 

One more niggly PR filed to fix some language in the README for that repo: https://github.com/cdfoundation/cdf-landscape/pull/37


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:15 PM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
Issue Tracking SGTM

Also here is the link for folks who don't have it readily available:

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:42 PM TracyRagan <tracy@...> wrote:
Hello distinguished TOC members.

Please let me know if you have any issues with the landscape.  We would love to get it out, start blogging about it, tweeting etc.   If the categories work we will publish it so organizations can start adding their logos. 

One last thought - Do you think we should add an Issue Tracking category? 

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Re: [cdf-outreach] Is the Landscape ready for prime time?

Moritz Plassnig
 

I like the approach of using the "core focus area". How would you objectively define that (to avoid vendors arguing forever about it)?


On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:15 PM TracyRagan <tracy@...> wrote:
Thank you Emma for taking the time to review the landscape. In terms of multiple logos, it should represent complete separate products.  Like IBM has a solution in ARA and a complete different product in testing. I'm not sure at this point if companies are going to be allowed to list in multiple places when they have multiple tools. I understand what you are saying, for example DeployHub could be listed in ARA and config. management, but we just have deployhub listed in our core focus area. I believe this is the intent of the landscape.  

More to come...
Tracy


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 5:28 PM Emma Webb <emma@...> wrote:
Thanks for all your hard work here, Tracy and team. 

I noticed that we have a few vendors in multiple categories, which makes sense as different groups cover additional functionality. If we're allowing for single logos listed in multiple places, I would be interested to see the criteria - we could certainly put CircleCI in test automation, build automation, and image build, as well as both pipeline orchestration and CI. 

The logo stacking in pipeline orchestration also seems a bit inconsistent - is it possible to find a more neutral treatment for these? 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:19 PM Michael Neale <mneale@...> wrote:
I had 2 PRs open which were moving some things around I thought were important. There is another PR open for a new project I saw - would be good to address those if possible. 

On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 4:42 am, Tracy Ragan <tracy@...> wrote:
Hello distinguished TOC members.

Please let me know if you have any issues with the landscape.  We would love to get it out, start blogging about it, tweeting etc.   If the categories work we will publish it so organizations can start adding their logos. 

One last thought - Do you think we should add an Issue Tracking category? 


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Re: Regrets tomorrow

Tara Hernandez
 

Sure thing, enjoy Tokyo!


On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 11:25 PM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <kk@...> wrote:
I'm traveling in Tokyo and therefore I won't be able to make it to the TOC meeting tomorrow. I'm hoping Tara would be able to run the meeting for us.

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