Thoughts from OSLS

Kohsuke Kawaguchi

I'm back to work from the hectic week that is OSLS. As everyone said it before, the launch went really well. Here are some thoughts that I'm starting to form that's relevant to what TOC might want to take on.
  • Several people who are behind some of the "CD" projects came up to me and showed their interest to bring their projects under the CDF. All of them are overlapping to some degree with some of the 4 projects that we already have. That by itself isn't a bad thing, but it did make me wonder how we'd approach them. I feel like the industry and vendors are watching what color this foundation will take in the next few¬†months, and if we build a super market with 4 different kind of apples without any oranges, I don't know if that's the message we want to send.

  • But another way to look at this is that the reasons those 4 different apples exist (in various different stages of maturity) is that devops teams needed to scratch their itches, and I'd think a part of the reason is that they weren't aware, or didn't feel comfortable joining other projects. I think we can solve those problems here, and that might encourage more collaboration and result in more consolidation, which I think is a better outcome.

  • From there, my mind went to "how do we solve that?" There are a lot of things we can do for sure, and some of those are already mentioned by people when we met. For example, putting people behind those projects together and sharing what problems they are trying to solve to each other would be a great step. Another one I thought is to set a bar or provide help to participating projects about transparency to the governance and/or the vision, which help other organized potential contributors to see if it's aligned with what they need, or they need to build something else. That kind of visibility feels like a sign of maturity anyway.

  • Relevant to above visibility/transparency is that people wanted understand where the collaboration with Tekton and Jenkins are happening and what that means.

  • From the "4 different kind of apples without any oranges" thought, another place my head went is that it'd be great to recruit projects more proactively (or at least build relations with.) I think that requires drawing a mental map of the super market, that is the CD space.

  • Finally, completely tangentially, I always thought there are lots of rooms for more API/interop focused small projects. I'm a big fan of Grafeas. Another example is the machine readable input/output to test frameworks --- there's the test report format that JUnit started but now used everywhere from nosetest to rspec, and that could really use a name and a schema. Then I'd love to see a mechanism that allows CI/CD tool to specify a subset of tests to run and its order, for more frictionless parallelism and efficiency. It's all fairly trivial things but it takes putting the right group of people in the room to make happen!!

As you can see, random unorganized thoughts here. Love to hear other people's own thoughts.

Kohsuke Kawaguchi

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